Pro-gun rights US petition to deport Piers Morgan
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FILE - In this Dec. 20, 2011 file photo, Piers Morgan, host of CNN's "Piers Morgan Tonight," leaves the CNN building in Los Angeles. More than 31,400 people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun-control views. Morgan has taken an aggressive stand for tighter U.S. gun laws in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting. Last week, he called a gun advocate appearing on his "Piers Morgan Tonight" show an "unbelievably stupid man." Now, gun-rights activists are fighting back. A petition created Dec. 21 on the White House e-petition website by a user in Texas accuses Morgan of engaging in a "hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution" by targeting the Second Amendment and demands he be deported immediately. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong, File)
FILE - In this Dec. 20, 2011 file photo, Piers Morgan, host of CNN's "Piers Morgan Tonight," leaves the CNN building in Los Angeles. More than 31,400 people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun-control views. Morgan has taken an aggressive stand for tighter U.S. gun laws in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting. Last week, he called a gun advocate appearing on his "Piers Morgan Tonight" show an "unbelievably stupid man." Now, gun-rights activists are fighting back. A petition created Dec. 21 on the White House e-petition website by a user in Texas accuses Morgan of engaging in a "hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution" by targeting the Second Amendment and demands he be deported immediately. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong, File)
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LONDON (AP) — Tens of thousands of people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun control views.

Morgan has taken an aggressive stand for tighter U.S. gun laws in the wake of the Newtown, Connecticut, school shooting. Last week, he called a gun advocate appearing on his "Piers Morgan Tonight" show an "unbelievably stupid man."

Now, gun rights activists are fighting back. A petition created Dec. 21 on the White House e-petition website by a user in Texas accuses Morgan of engaging in a "hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution" by targeting the Second Amendment. It demands he be deported immediately for "exploiting his position as a national network television host to stage attacks against the rights of American citizens."

The petition has already hit the 25,000 signature threshold to get a White House response. By Monday, it had 31,813 signatures.

Morgan seemed unfazed — and even amused — by the movement.

In a series of Twitter messages, he alternately urged his followers to sign the petition and in response to one article about the petition said "bring it on" as he appeared to track the petition's progress.

"If I do get deported from America for wanting fewer gun murders, are there any other countries that will have me?" he wrote.

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rt_elms
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December 31, 2012
To all:

I have sited several factual examples that clearly illustrate the laws and weapons are inconsequential to the issue and all I get in return are canned platitudes and half constructed, misconstrued arguments that miss the point completely. It’s like trying to fill a kiddie-pool with a fire hose. You can keep pouring it on, but not much stays. Quite possibly it is just years of government school indoctrination coming to fruition. All the while we are one anointed appointment away from 2nd Amendment decimation. Before you get any more sidetracked, you do recall the most recent gun control cases (DC vs. Heller and the Chicago case) were decided at the Court with a 5/4 decision in favor of rights specifically enumerated in the Constitution. Oh how far we have fallen!!!

“From my cold dead hands”

HAPPY NEW YEAR Y’ALL!!!

georgia4life
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December 31, 2012
I will gladly relinquish my weapons and return to the days of sticks and stones as soon as I am given a 100% guarantee that none of the remaining 300 Million ( ) weapons are in the hands of any criminals or people who may be in the process of breaking the law. Until you can make that guarantee, I will just keep what I have.

Congress can make as many gun restrictions as they wish, but laws are only followed by those with decent morals and standards. We now live in a culture of decay, decline, and dis-respect (with our POTUS being the supreme example). Don't count on any more gun restrictions "stopping the violence."

BTW - I was searching the Internet, and couldn't find a single instance where a gun killed someone all by itself. There was always someone holding or operating the weapon.
rt_elms
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December 31, 2012
Exactly what portion of the phrase “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?
CuriouslyAbsent
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December 31, 2012
Actually, the "stated and express purpose" is the restriction of sales of specific weapons. You already own one of those potentially restricted items? You get to keep it. Saying otherwise is just scare tactics.
thlastrebel
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December 31, 2012
I would get to keep my rifles today, and tomorrow. Maybe through the next year. But the law also "Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act." So the next time a murderer kills kids, they will know which houses to raid to remove all future threats to society.

If this is acceptable to you, perhaps you would agree that all men should be required to register their sex organs. The government can take fingerprints and DNA, since every penis is capable of committing rape. That makes sense, right? Because rapists don't rape women, penes do.
rt_elms
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December 31, 2012
Typical! You just don’t get it! Laws in other civilized nations??? Surely you are referring to a country like Norway. Very civilized with very restrictive gun laws governing all aspects of private ownership, yet in July 2011 Anders Breivik managed a body count of 77 by the time he was done. Russia severely restricts private ownership of weapons to basically smooth-bore shotguns, yet in Beslan over 300 died, many by illegally owned weapons. I could go on.

Don’t tell me “no one is going to take away (my) gun” as it is their stated and express purpose to do exactly that. It was you TL who chided me about my concerns over the anointed one’s future Supreme Court nominations, yet the anointed Justice Sotomayor (the wise Latina) signed an opinion that specifically states: “American do NOT have an individual right to own firearms.” The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Really???

I’ll have to check on the flame-thrower, but with the right paperwork, license and enough cash I can purchase, own/operate and mount on my porch pretty much any fully automatic military grade machine-gun I choose. Furthermore, here’s a BIG FYI for you, according to the ATF, there are approximately 175,000 fully automatic machine-guns lawfully in private ownership in the USA and NOT ONE of them as ever been used in a violent crime!

This entire issue is a people problem, not a gun problem!

Termlimits
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December 31, 2012
Laws in other civilized nations where gun violence is low are similar to what DiFe is proposing.

You can't mount a machine gun on your porch and walk down the street with a flame-thrower on your shoulder. We already have lines drawn as to what is allowable and what isn't. A periodic review of the lines based on changes in technology over the centuries since the 2nd amendment was drafted and events which affect our society are warranted.

No one is going to take away your gun, so get over yourself.
mirage83
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December 31, 2012
Those "civilized nations" you refer to TL have a low incidence of violent crime in general, not just firearms-related crime. When you only look at one corner of the picture you miss the larger, more complete picture needed to make a truly accurate assessment. In order to make an effective, applicable comparison you'd have to take the whole of the society and culture into account, not just one particular type of violence and ignore everything else.

And yes, with the right license you most certainly can own a machine gun. It's called a Class III federal firearms license. Such weapons are expensive, both to own and to use, but they can be legally owned by civilians in most states.

Changes in technology? Semi-auto's have been around since the end of the 19th century, over 100 years now. Nothing new about them or the technology they utilize. The AR itself was developed in the 60's, about half a century ago, so even it is not anything close to a "new technology".

"Over the centuries" since the 2nd was written you say TL? It's been two and change, that's all. Refering to it like it's been a few thousand years is disengenuous to those who don't know better.

But you're probably right that nobody is going to confiscate any arms right here and right now. Yet that simple fact ignore the other fact that there are elected officials who would like to do just that if given the chance. They aren't a majority by any stretch of the imagination, but they do exist. And they love to use the personal tragedies of others to push their agenda.
rt_elms
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December 30, 2012
Political gain? Hardly! The knee-jerk Leftists were screaming about a “national conversation” the day of the tragedy, but have strangely backed away as the details have filtered out. Seems they are content to let a snot-nosed Brit make their case. Mind you, these are the same people that said we can’t release bin laden’s death photo as it was considered disrespectful, yet had the moral courage to call for the release of Sandy Hook photos to press the case for gun-control. I consider that game-set-match in trying to score political points on the tragedy.

You and I have a Constitutional right to be armed for self-defense, sport or just because we want to!!! The contents of the Bill of Rights are unalienable, they are self-evident and God-given; or if you prefer, they are natural rights imputed to us under Natural Law, ours just for drawing breath. Man or the State cannot lawfully take them away. Too bad the teachers and administrators at Sandy Hook had their rights truncated by the government to the point of defenselessness. I can envision a different outcome had that predator been confronted with deadly force by a determined, trained and armed teacher.

thlastrebel
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December 30, 2012
To those who use this mass murder for your own political gain, shame on you. It should be noted that the "news" of the investigation is not yet official. While the "news" is now that a AR was used to commit the murders, the first "news" was that the AR was found in his mom's vehicle and that two pistols were used. Obviously, the pistol story does not carry as much political value, so it has been changed/corrected. What happened to the man dressed in camo that was led out of the woods surrounding the school in handcuffs?

Murderers kill people and laws will not change that. He could have just as easily done it with gas cans or a school bus, neither of which can be outlawed.

If legislation is the answer, then how is there a meth problem here? Surely meth is illegal. How do we still have DUI fatalities? Is driving under the influence legal? How many children have died in accidents involving cell phones? We should outlaw cell phones. The Constitution doesn't provide us a right to cell phones. Obesity kills more people than criminals with guns, could congress could solve that by outlawing high capacity plates? Sounds silly, right?

rt_elms
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December 30, 2012
SKIPPY - If one of the Sandy Hook teachers had broken the law, accessed an illegally concealed weapon and stopped the carnage, would they have been hailed a hero or criticized as unlawful?

TL – I reiterate: Senator Feinstein’s Bill would /will have prevent(ed) exactly what??? Did you know in China, since 2010, various lunatics have entered into schoolyards and classrooms slaughtering 18 children and several adults in 4 incidents with scores injured? The weapon of choice, certainly an AR-15 or AK-47 or Hi-Cap Semi-Auto pistol right? NO, butcher knives and axes are the weapons available. The weapons are irrelevant!

The children of the Washington DC Elite, politicians and media alike, send their precious children to a school with 11 full-time-armed guards. This total does not include Secret Service protection for high profile students. Why can’t our precious children in Gordon County be afforded the same level of protection?

There is good news! Our buddy Piers said if the gun laws in the USA were not changed, he would self-deport.

rt_elms
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December 29, 2012
Campaigning to preserve Constitutional Rights is not mere foolishness, nor is it boring as you suggest. Yet another Reality Check! “Madness” is what broke into a secure school building and slaughtered innocents! The weapon(s) are only a footnote in the tragedy.

(Insert feigned outrage here!)

Convenient you failed to mention her Bill that would have done NOTHING to prevent the heartbreak at Sandy Hook and would do NOTHING to prevent a future event. Go ahead and nonchalantly ignore her Bill ONLY increases the burden of law-abiding people to own and enjoy firearms. Disregard what Sen. Feinstein’s actual motives entail, that being the ultimate leftist utopia of a gun-free society. No Red Bull required to see that her efforts are just another “brick in the wall” towards that expressed goal.

Furthermore, Connecticut has some of the most restrictive laws concerning private ownership of firearms, their sale or transfer, carrying, home/business possession and even their storage in the home. By the time this predator pulled the trigger on himself, he had violated in excess of 20 state laws ranging from obviously murder to breaking and entering.

The good Senator’s Bill would /will have prevented exactly what???

Termlimits
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December 29, 2012
You've spent too many hours hopped up on Red Bull if you think Senator Feinstein’s introducing a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices is madness.

Your specific mentions include these Feinstein bombshells

• Background check of owner and any transferee;

• Type and serial number of the firearm;

• Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint.

“…how many [sic Supremes]…anointed one gets before then.” Stop being boring.

rt_elms
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December 28, 2012
Have you even bothered to read what the good Senator Feinstein is proposing for next year? Here’s your link:

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

Will the 2nd Amendment stand the challenge of that legislation in front of the Supremes? Depends entirely on how many appointments the anointed one gets before then. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Got it.

SKIPPY48
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December 29, 2012
I agree with you. Anyone that has any brains (this excludes progressives in Gordon County), knows that more gun control laws are not going to do any good. The government can't enforce the ones they have on the books now. Just look at the latest school shooting......all gun laws were followed......the only law that was broken prior to the school shooting was breaking, entering, and theft, which the police didn't stop either. I thought their job was to protect.......wrong.......all they do is retaliate....no protection at all. More gun laws would be just like adding more voting laws and we all know that they don't a bit of good. For instance, convicted felons CAN vote Democrat. They just have to wait until they die. Until that time their political involvement must be curtailed to threatening others at the polls.

CuriouslyAbsent
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December 28, 2012
You want a reality check? How about this: he's trolled you HARD. He's used his rights the same way Limbaugh, O'Reilly , Stewart, Colbert, Hannity, Maddow and countless other mouthpieces to get people listening or watching them. Take a minute and think about what you're inhaling. Do you seriously think the Second is going away? Are you so delusional and scared that such a person is so influential they'll be able to repeal it? Better to laugh at him and change the channel.
rt_elms
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December 27, 2012
If you find nothing the least bit disconcerting about a foreigner, a privileged guest in our country, advocating restricting rights enumerated in the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution AND you can somehow make the mental leap of equating anti-Morgan public sentiment that promotes a political decision not renew his Green Card with tyranny, I’d suggest a study of our struggle against genuine tyranny. I’d also suggest a Reality Check as those on the American Left have consistently and increasingly resorted to assault and battery, terrorist-threats and other nefarious behaviors against those who hold opposing political views. Who’s the Tyrant now?

If you agree with that ruddy hairy axe-wound of a Brit, then repeal the 2nd Amendment. Just be forewarned, the 1st Amendment will soon follow. Where will Piers Morgan be then? Probably the Official Government Media Spokesperson on CNN. Get busy!

CuriouslyAbsent
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December 27, 2012
How delicious, speech freshly chilled. I can hear the chat now:

"By all means, Mr. Morgan, speak to your heart's content. When was it when you had to renew that card? Oh, no sir, no one's implying any kind of connection between renewal and how much you talk or what you talk about between now and then. I was just wondering."

Now what was that about tyranny and a lecture about our Constitution?
rt_elms
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December 26, 2012
No one has suggested denying Mr. Morgan the Constitutional rights so generously afforded him as a foreign national who is lawfully permitted to work here. What I am advocating is his Green Card not be renewed. Send him and his euro-centric worldview packing to somewhere it has more value than a warm meadow-muffin! Besides, we probably fought his 5th great-grandfather to secure our freedom from tyranny and we certainly don’t need one of his progeny lecturing us about our Constitution.
CuriouslyAbsent
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December 26, 2012
The stupid part comes in when people want to ship out someone exercising their rights under the first amendment. Doesn't really matter how big of a jackhole he is.
rt_elms
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December 26, 2012
BTW: It seems there is a counter petition “over-there” calling on the UK government to block his return to the UK. Even they don’t ant him back. Here’s your link:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/brits-petition-government-we-dont-want-piers-morgan-back.html

rt_elms
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December 24, 2012
So you consider it “stupid” to publicly mock a foreigner who earns his living berating Americans while he advocates abolishing our Constitutional rights?
ODO
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December 24, 2012
The American right is determined to show the world how stupid they are, and they are doing a dang fine job of it
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