Romney barrels out of first debate on offense
by KASIE HUNT, NANCY BENAC,Associated Press
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President Barack Obama and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney shake hands at the start of the presidential debate at the University of Denver Wednesday, Oct. 3, 2012, in Denver. (AP Photo/The Denver Post, Craig F Walker)
President Barack Obama and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney shake hands at the start of the presidential debate at the University of Denver Wednesday, Oct. 3, 2012, in Denver. (AP Photo/The Denver Post, Craig F Walker)
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DENVER (AP) — Little more than a month from Election Day, Republican Mitt Romney is barreling out of the first presidential debate energized by a solid performance that telegraphed his determination to take it to President Barack Obama with gusto. The president, intent on keeping his momentum from stalling, is warning that his GOP rival's policy prescriptions for a fragile economy are more fantasy than reality.

Standing toe-to-toe with the president for the first time in the campaign, Romney held his own and more at a time when there already were signs that the race is tightening in some of the battleground states where Obama has enjoyed an advantage. Obama kept his cool and signaled that he won't let up on his message that Romney's plans on taxes, health care, the deficit and more just don't add up.

"It's fun," Romney declared well into Wednesday night's 90-minute faceoff, clearly relishing the back-and-forth.

"It's arithmetic," said Obama, hammering at Romney's conspicuous lack of details with far less enthusiasm.

After a few days of relative calm as the candidates prepared for the first of their three debates, the campaign now bursts out of Colorado in all directions Thursday, with an itinerary that touches down in some of the most hotly contested battleground states in the coming days: Obama campaigns in Colorado and Wisconsin, then on to Virginia and Ohio. Romney and running mate Paul Ryan are off to Virginia, then Romney spends more time in Virginia before moving on to Florida. Vice President Joe Biden is bound for Iowa.

But before leaving Colorado, Romney brought in some more campaign cash to fund the final push. He went to a mansion located on the Cherry Hills Country Club south of Denver, where a Bentley and other luxury cars were lined up for a private breakfast with donors who contributed at least $50,000. Their money will help fund Romney's current advertising gap in the final weeks, putting out messages like the ad his campaign revealed Thursday in which the candidate wore an open-collar shirt on a factory floor and outlined his job creation plan.

With a 13-day break before their next debate, Obama and Romney have time to hone their arguments while their campaigns continue to bombard the most hotly contested states with negative ads that go far beyond the more restrained jibes the candidates leveled from their respective podiums. Obama made no mention, for example, of Romney's caught-on-tape remark that he's not worried about the 47 percent of Americans who don't pay federal income taxes. Democratic ads, though, have been making hay with the comment.

Asked why the president didn't raise the video, Obama senior political adviser David Axelrod suggested on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that he didn't need to since it has been so widely seen and heard. "The president's belief is that's something that has been very much a part of the discussion," Axelrod said.

In next few weeks, Romney is expected to give a number of policy speeches filling in details as he tries to sharpen the contrast with Obama while answering criticism that he hasn't clearly outlined his plans. The Republican challenger begins with a foreign policy speech in Virginia on Monday. Subsequent speeches are expected to focus on his plans for job creation, debt and spending.

Romney has promised to balance the budget in eight years to 10 years, but hasn't explained just how he'll do it. Instead, he's promised a set of principles, some of which — like increasing Pentagon spending and restoring more than $700 billion in cuts to Medicare over the coming decade — work against that goal. He also has said he will not consider tax increases.

Obama argued that it's all too much.

"At some point, I think the American people have to ask themselves, is the reason that Gov. Romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good?" he said. "Is it because that somehow middle-class families are going to benefit too much from them? No."

The president went on to say the nation faces tough problems that defy simple solutions and said his own choices were "benefiting middle-class families all across the country."

Romney maintained it was Obama who was crushing the middle class and getting the numbers wrong, telling him, "Mr. President, you're entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not your own facts."

The two candidates planted themselves behind wooden lecterns and faced off before about a crowd of fewer than 1,000 people at the University of Denver. But their policy-heavy debate really was aimed at the tens of millions of television viewers who tuned in, particularly those who are undecided or soft in their support for a candidate. Just the sort of voters who may be less partisan and more interested in hearing specifics.

Karl Amelchenko, an Obama supporter who watched the debate at a store-front art gallery in Raleigh, N.C., thought Romney did himself some good.

"I think he won, unfortunately," Amelchenko said. "I think he might change some minds."

But some voters still aren't ready to commit one way or the other.

Cynthia Gerst, a state worker in Ohio who attended a nonpartisan debate watch party in downtown Columbus, confessed she's "been under a rock, but now I'm ready" to pay attention. She leans Democratic, but hasn't made up her mind.

"I couldn't distinguish who was in the right," she said after the debate.

Axelrod said on NBC's "Today" show Thursday that the former Massachusetts governor had "big gaps in truth that we saw" and said that Obama will set the record straight. He charged that Romney "refused to offer any way to pay" for the broad-ranging tax cut he advocated.

"I give him credit for a strong performance. I give him an F for being honest with the American people," Axelrod said.

Ed Gillespie, a top aide to Romney, said what people saw in the debate was a presidential challenger "who had a command of the facts."

"He had a very fact-based critique of Obama's policies," Gillespie said on NBC, adding that "we didn't hear very much, frankly, from President Obama about a second-term agenda."

Both candidates came into the debate with distinct missions, and largely achieved them: Romney needed to project leadership and dispel the image of an out-of-touch elitist. Obama needed to avoid making any major mistakes and press the case that he still has more to offer.

The GOP nominee began his charm offensive from the outset, offering 20th wedding anniversary wishes to the Obamas and joking that the debate hall was quite the romantic setting. Then he quickly segued to the campaign's central issue — jobs — and called it "a very tender topic."

Obama sketched out his familiar agenda of improving schools, expanding energy sources, increasing tax fairness and paying down the debt, then made a simple but all-encompassing promise: "All of this is possible."

Each candidate wielded studies and experts to buttress his arguments, and each hauled out anecdotes about ordinary people to connect with voters. Romney spoke of the woman in Ohio who grabbed his arm and told him she's been out of work since May. Obama recalled the teacher he met in Las Vegas who had students sitting on the floor and using 10-year-old textbooks.

Biden and Ryan were probably two of the most attentive viewers: Their own debate is up next, on Oct. 11 at Centre College in Danville, Ky. Their rival rehearsals, with stand-ins for their opponents, already are well under way.

Obama and Romney go back at it on Oct. 16, in a town hall-style format at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y. Their final faceoff, on foreign affairs, is Oct. 22 at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Fla.

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Benac reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Nedra Pickler and Steve Peoples in Washington, Allen Breed in Raleigh, N.C., Julie Pace in Denver and Andrew Welsh-Huggins in Columbus, Ohio contributed to this report.

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C.T.failure
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October 13, 2012
The times has went to hell in a hand basket. Not long ago this used to be a good place to come to but know it just the same old bored hags posting day after day after day!The Times is a one sided

politically correct joke in every manner.

No wonder the rumour is flying on it's demise.It should have gone long ago.....

I'm just wondering if Internet service is provided by the times at the nurseing home for you retired trolls and if it's took out of your checks you get paid to keep posting here?

I see welltraveled is still hitting on the Kool-aid jug.

LiedToAgainAndAgain
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October 12, 2012
An American lives frugally, by choice, for many years, working 80 hours a week...saving...and being thrifty. He does without, doesn't take vacations, doesn't buy a new car, lives in a cheap apartment, etc., by choice. He builds his savings...earned, by him...building a better future for himself and his family.

This man takes his savings...invests properly...and sees the benefits of his industrious labor grow. After awhile, a politician comes along, says "You didn't build that...You couldn't have done it yourself" and demonizes the thrifty risk-taker for becoming wealthy.

This same man paid the income taxes on ALL of his income at first...This man THEN, after awhile, paid capital gains taxes on HIS OWN NEST EGG...No way he should be taxed twice at the same full rate.

"You need to pay your fair share....You need to spread the wealth," says Obama to the man.

"Why," says the man, "did I work hard in the first place? I would have been better off going to Hawaii, eating steak for dinner, and driving a new car each year....And now I'M THE ONE being demonized? Maybe Obama ought to be praising me and demonizing the bums who CHOOSE not to work or go the extra mile."

Thank God for hard-working, tax paying, God fearing American's.

It's a Republican thing...The rest of you just wouldn't understand.
rt_elms
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October 12, 2012
Excuse me!!! I personally know plenty of “hard working, tax paying” Democrats. Admittedly, I’m still working on the “God fearing” part with most of them. But have a little faith and give it time, they’ll come around sooner or later.
LiedToAgainAndAgain
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October 12, 2012
Just having a little fun with a few of the diehards on here. My comment was basically directed toward Obama and those that follow blindly behind their leader.

Many Republicans are blinded, too. In reality, I believe that we should take everything said by our leaders with both an eye as well as an ear open...and never, ever close our minds.
rt_elms
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October 12, 2012
Well, since we’re having a little fun, let’s give Morn some evidence to hurl an accusation of racism by agreeing with me on the following statement: the choice we are given in this presidential election is pretty much black and white. Cheers!
CuriouslyAbsent
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October 13, 2012
The tea-tards are out in force I see.
rt_elms
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October 13, 2012
Hey!!! That’s God fearing, gun toting, flag waving, knuckle-dragging-Neanderthal, tea-tards to you!
Termlimits
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October 11, 2012
Voting machines in swing states brought to you by the friends of Bain Capital
rt_elms
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October 11, 2012
{{{{{Squirrel!!!}}}}}
rt_elms
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October 11, 2012
What is really sad is NOT that we have differences of opinion on issues; as it has been that way from the founding of the republic, but that one side wants to take our constitutional republic and turn it into something it was never intended to be. When the president views the Constitution as a “charter of negative liberties” instead of a document guaranteeing freedom by limiting the power of government over us, we are very close to perdition indeed!
BBchord
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October 11, 2012
Just the facts - Mitt Romney: I have no plans to support any legislation limiting abortion. Romney Spokesperson: What he meant was, he supports legislation limiting abortion. Media: Well that makes complete sense; let's move on
georgia4life
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October 12, 2012
@BBchord -- no, what's really sad is with the state of our budget deficit, unemployment, and security issues, abortion is even being talked about. Then again, you left leaning bed wetters can't run on your (Obama's) records, so I guess this really is an issue for your type. Hopefully, Americans will wake up, realize that with this administration, there is no hope or change, and get this clown out of office.
Blder
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October 11, 2012
It's really sad to me how divided this country has become.
LiedToAgainAndAgain
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October 10, 2012
Obama will soon be unveiling his new Obamacare Plan for 2013...named, aptly, Oblameacare....Oblameacare will be used to repel anyone who disagrees with the president on any issue, large or small.

Don't like cuts in military spending? Obama blames everyone else.

Don't like paying higher taxes? Obama blames someone else.

Don't like the high price of gasoline? Obama blames everyone else.

Don't like the higher prices at the grocery store? Obama blames someone else.

Yep...that old Oblameacare Plan will really work, especially with the liberal media and the Ladies of The View supporting it!

If Obama is the answer, I don't want to hear the question.
rt_elms
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October 10, 2012
Do you people really know whom you’re voting for? Read if you dare!

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

Termlimits
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October 10, 2012
Mitt promises 12 million new jobs, eliminate the deficit, & lower taxes. Wall Street investor does the math: "At a 25 percent Federal tax rate on all the new income, the average new job would have to pay a mere $433,333 per year to fill the gap"

Ramblings! And the first fact check of the debate comes from a Romney advisor: No, our healthcare plan will not cover pre-existing conditions at all
Welltraveled
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October 10, 2012
Romney campaign: "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers"

Translation: we're going to continue to blatantly lie and misrepresent, and shovel dung into the mouths of the poor horses that drink from our watering hole.

And as for healthcare reform...Just wait until this afternoon, Mitt will probably flip on it again, followed by another flop tomorrow morning.

At least when he flip-flops, it is usually on 'his' views of a policy that is real and in place (specifics). That is the only thing remotely "specific" you will hear from the Romney team. If that doesn't scare folks, I don't know what will!!! Hand me all the power you peasants, and once I get it, then I'll decide what to do with you!
rt_elms
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October 10, 2012
And you’re surprised a politician speaks like a politician??? Again, get a clue! If both of you are that discouraged by our choices in this election, just stay home and don’t vote in protest. If you’re in Georgia, it’s not like your vote for the Anointed One or Ron Paul will matter anyway, as Saint Mittens will carry the state by a good margin.
Termlimits
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October 09, 2012
It is amazing how people will still vote for a man who cares so much about America but will not release his tax returns, puts his money in banks in foreign countries, wants us to spend more money we don't have blowing up other countries and is silent on tax details saying today, "I'm not going to lay it out!"

Arkansas politician wants death penalty for unruly children. Guess which party. Go on, guess
rt_elms
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October 09, 2012
As opposed to voting for a man who is in the process of “fundamentally transforming America” from a constitutional republic to, lets say France! A man who after taking office went on a world apology tour, bowing to every dictator and royal he could find. You know something, subjects bow to the potentate; citizens do not bow!!! We fought a revolution to free us from the tyranny of monarchy and the Anointed One, given a second term will make certain he blurs the line even further.

As for tax returns and foreign bank accounts: Mittens has released his most recent returns and foreign accounts are what wealthy people do to protect their gains from the oppressive tax structure in the good ole USA. Get a clue! All the big wealthy Democrats have foreign accounts too. At least Mitt earned his, as opposed to Reid, Pelosi and others who made theirs on a congressional salary. Very interesting.

If you want to color an entire party by the ramblings of some local political type go ahead. But I have meet some minors that given their offensives, capital punishment could have been on the table if I were king!

TheJudgeIsInAllRise
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October 09, 2012
It is amazing people will still vote for a man who has been president for almost four years and has ran this country into the ground. Oh wait, he inherited all the problems right? It's time to take responsibility for what happened and quit blaming others. He promised this and promised that but what we got was jack diddly poo. Well he killed Bin Laden didn't he? NO HE DIDN'T. That's the only good thing that happened during his presidency so he wants to take the credit. It's time to take this country back. Get out and vote or you have no say.
georgia4life
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October 12, 2012
Once again, a lib who can't run on their record (Obama's) from the last four years, so what do they do.....focus on abortion and tax returns. Neither of those so called "issues" will reduce unemployment, balance the budget, or secure our Nation. But, you limp wristed yellow backs only care about staying in power -- forget the welfare of the USA.
athenry
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October 09, 2012
Bring back BILL CLINTON – the only President to have a balanced budget and to reduce the size of government and reform welfare.
oldman76
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October 09, 2012
I voted for Clinton, but he did not do much to reform welfare! He reduced the size of government with a stick over his head held by Newt. He also set up the housing market for what later became"The Great Reccession". No kudos to Bill.
rt_elms
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October 09, 2012
The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act, also know as welfare reform under Clinton was the cornerstone of the Contract With America proposed by Newtie and the Republican controlled House. To think Bubba would have signed this into law apart from the Republican Revolution in 1994 is, well, willful ignorance with a healthy dose of rainbows and unicorns!!! Furthermore, the Clinton surplus you laud was only in the last two years of his 2nd term and was the natural result of a booming .com economy. Remember, Billy vetoed the balanced budget sent to him by the Republicans because it was, well, too balanced.
LiedToAgainAndAgain
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October 08, 2012
I am not Barack Obama, and I approved of this message.

Let me make this perfectly clear...make no mistake about it....We, the Democrats, are after the kiddie vote. I have traveled extensively from one college campus to another...playing up to the uninformed (liberals under the age of 25)...and begging...errr...asking for their vote. The wide spread glee shown on their smiling faces as I tell lie after lie to the adoring audience is inspiring! Just think...if they are that unquestioning at the age of 19 and 20....just imagine how gullible they will still be in just one more month!

My party is made up of 5 distinct groups, all of which support us overwhelmingly:

1. Blacks.....98%.

2. Hispanics....75% (think illegal alien....duh)

3. Big Unions...100%

4. Gay Activists....95%

5. College kids....75%

We only have a short time to get the kiddie vote....Remember, friends..They quickly grow up, get married, got to work, raise families, pay taxes....Then they change overnight into hard-working Republicans, provided they do not belong to groups 1 thru 4.

Remember....Vote Early, Vote Often

No ID required at a voting precinct in a Democratic controlled state near you.
BARRYGOLDWATER
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October 05, 2012
Obama is playing defense. Romney is exposing Obama and his failures. Obama has no options to promote ideas or ways to get us out of this mess. Romney will continue to expose Obama's failures and Obama will conitunue to play defense. More of the same next few debates.
rt_elms
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October 04, 2012
The next debate is on foreign policy. All Dear Leader has is he gave the OK to get Osama. Who among us couldn’t have made that decision? Mittens has plenty of low-hanging fruit to lay at Dear Leader’s feet. Ought to be fun and I can’t wait!
Welltraveled
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October 04, 2012
Romney did a good job last night. He was clearly the victor in this particular debate. I give credit where it is due. I wouldn't expect to see the same on the next, but anything is possible!
rt_elms
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October 04, 2012
Dear Leader needs to check if ObamaCare covers a butt-ectomy, because he got his handed to him last night.
LiedToAgainAndAgain
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October 04, 2012
I am not Barack Obama, and I approved of this message.

My fellow American's. Do not be dismayed. Last night's performance was not what it appeared to be.

I have credible sources (MSNBC) that have informed me that the supposed "live" feed was hijacked by airwave pirates working covertly with Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Fox News. These pirates then reinserted a "mock" debate between two lookalike actors that remarkably looked like Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

Re-fed back into the system, this new tape was presented as the "real" debate. This bogus and rehearsed fake debate was taped somewhere in central Alabama, protected by gun-toting hillbillies and inbred coondogs. I have asked Eric Holder to investigate into these allegations, but I have yet to hear back from our Attorney General....My next step is, failing to hear back from the same man who thoroughly investigated the Black Panther voter intimidation video, the ACORN prostitution video, the killing of our American ambassador to Libya, the killing of border agent Terry,and the killing of an American on a jet ski on the Texas-Mexican border by Mexican drug lords....will be to contact the ladies on The View for a real investigation into the incident.

Remember, my Democratic friends... Vote Early and Vote Often in a precinct near you. No proof of identity required in many Democratic controlled states near you.
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